Retro-Bit Legacy 16 Wireless 2.4GHz Controller for SNES, Switch, PC, MacOS, RetroPie, Raspberry Pi and Other USB Devices - Onyx

If you are buying this controller, you probably care a lot about the D-Pad. From my experience I would say that the D-Pad on this controller is excellent. It is a good size and feel and most importantly it does not register any false diagonals like the 8bitDo controller lineup. The buttons are also very good and feel remarkably similar to North American SNES controller buttons. X & Y even have the concave shape. The shoulder buttons are also great and it is easy to differentiate between ZR & R as well as ZL & L because of the way they are shaped. As for the sticks, they are essentially Joy Con sticks. If you are okay with Joy Con sticks, you will be fine with these. I suspect if you are a big First Person Shooter fan who is gaming primarily by using the two sticks that this controller is probably not for you. If you are someone playing a lot of 2D games, Tetris, Mario Maker 2, and other similar games this is near perfection. I know others have said they have problems pairing the controller to the dongle, but I have encountered no such issues. Make sure you have Pro Controller Wired Communication set to ON and it works perfectly. All you need to do is attach the dongle to one of the USB ports, press the button on it and press Start on the controller. It works immediately and without any issues whatsoever. Also the fact that it is 2.4GHz is a real advantage over Bluetooth when it comes to latency. The game-changer for me is the fact that all the buttons are remappable with the onboard Switch Button Mapping software. I play a lot of Mario games and use the claw-grip on my controllers. As such I am using my right index and middle fingers for button presses rather than my thumb. In this configuration I cannot hit R or ZR. The problem is that with the more recent 2D Mario games on the Switch, Shiro Mouri has taken over for Takashi Tezuka as director and has stopped ZL and L mirroring ZR and R. So, for example, on New Super Mario Bros U (on Wii U) you can do the mid-air twirl by pressing ZL, L, ZR, or R, but on New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe (on Switch) ZL and L do nothing. Recently, Shiro Mouri decided to map menu and other functions to ZL & L in Super Mario Wonder, making it impossible to use the mid-air twirl if you use the claw-grip. Due to these choices I am forced to use a controller that I can swap ZL & L with ZR & R. This controller allows me to do that. Very few 3rd party Switch controllers have the ability to be remapped in the Switch software and the ones that do are almost all 8bitDo. If you do not know, 8bitDo controllers have THE WORST D-Pads of any 3rd Party controller. They constantly register false diagonals. Playing something like Tetris or Mario is nearly impossible since pieces will constantly change lanes in Tetris when you try to pull them down and Mario will climb every vine he passes when you try to run past them. Unfortunately 8bitDo dominates the 3rd Party controller market so it is very difficult to get a good controller with a smaller profile that has a decent D-Pad. This Retro-Bit controller has an awesome D-Pad. Lastly, I want to address the things this controller is missing. It does not have any kind of Rumble. Personally, I dislike rumble and always turn it off, so this is not an issue for me. It does not have an NFC reader. If you need to scan in an Amiibo, you can just use the right joy con. It does not have motion controls. This to me is a small drawback, since it means I cannot play Super Mario Galaxy or Odyssey with this controller. Lastly, it doesn't wake up the Switch. I have found that the 3rd Party controllers that do wake up the Switch like the PowerA Nano (https://www.amazon.com/PowerA-Enhanced-Wireless-Controller-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B08BK27KZF) and the PDP little Wired Controller (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FCWYQJD) do NOT allow for button remapping on the Switch, so I am not too bothered, since I can wake up the system with another controller or on the system itself. The last negative I have is the one thing I personally really dislike about the controller: After you turn the Switch off the dongle will not stop flashing once the controller powers off. It will just stay flashing (presumably forever) until the system is back on and you press Start on the controller. I wish I could turn off the flashing. My solution is to unplug the dongle from the Switch, but then every time I need to use the controller, I have to go over to the Switch and replug it back into the dock. This is a big issue I wish could be fixed with a firmware update. Other than that I have no complaints. Takeaways: PROS 1. Great D-Pad 2. Fantastic Buttons 3. Easy to Pair - 2.4GHz dongle. 4. Joy Con Style sticks 5. SNES form factor 6. Buttons CAN be remapped with Switch Button Mapping Software 7. Full suite of Switch Pro Controller buttons including ZL, ZR, Home and Capture. 8. Very good battery life (up to 15 hours) CONS 1. Light on dongle keeps flashing when controller is off 2. No Rumble 3. No Motion Controls 4. Does not wake up Switch Overall if you want a SNES style controller with a fantastic D-Pad and need to remap buttons on the Switch then this is a MUST BUY. It is a great little controller with only minor drawbacks.

First I'll call out the only negative aspect I found that doesn't really affect my use - the analog stick placement is weird. I don't use the sticks so it doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't recommend this controller if the games you are playing require analog sticks. That said, this controller works great! I play NES, SNES, Genesis, GBA, and PS1 games with it and the controls feel responsive on all platforms. D-pad feels good, ABXY buttons feel good, R and L buttons feel good. The controller weight is light but the build doesn't feel cheap. I also own a pair of wired 8bitdo controllers that cost more and I prefer these over the feel of the 8bitdo controller. I found the d-pad on the 8bitdo controllers to be hard and uncomfortable.

The input lag while trying it with my original snes was unbearable. Have not tried it via USB, but not waiting to find out. Return has been started

Great for using for Nintendo Switch, Super Nintendo, etc

Not a bad controller. The dpad is very smooth and is easy on the thumb. Buttons are decent, but nothing special. The analog sticks are completely useless and just feel awful. Shoulder buttons don't feel all that great and I would have preferred a single button on each shoulder. I think I actually prefer the dpad on this controller over the 8bitdo. Time will tell on that one. For whatever reason the SNES receiver wouldn't work with my Daemonbite adapter on my MiSTer. The USB adapter works fine on it though. The SNES receiver works fine on my SNES Jr. and was responsive enough to play Tetris Attack. Overall a strong contender. It won't be replacing my 2.4ghz 8bitdo SN30, but I can see myself switching over to the Retro Bit from time to time. Especially on games that are rough on the thumb with the dpad.

As an SNES controller, the Legacy 16 is pretty solid. The buttons are a little stiff, but are a bit lower profile on the controller, requiring less travel, same with the D-pad. They're still responsive and work fine, though. If you just want a wireless SNES controller, it's hard to go wrong with this one. The problem I have is the analog sticks. They just plain suck, with abysmal, unreliable sensitivity and a massive deadzone. And the problem is not the sticks themselves - I swapped the sticks out with Joycon replacement sticks and the issue persists. It's obvious when using Windows' controller properties as well as in games. Since they're essentially the same sticks as Switch Joycons and aiming/moving with those feels fine (drift unassumed), I believe the issue is in firmware. Months after purchase there's still no firmware update to fix it, but maybe not as many people care about the sticks as I do to realize how bad they feel to use. I wanted this so I could have a controller with all the common modern inputs in a small footprint, to keep in my backpack without taking up the space of an Xbox controller. Playing 2D/retro games is fine, but I know these sticks can be better, and since they're a selling point of the product that is inadequate, I can't give the Legacy 16 any more than 3 stars, nor recommend it for others seeking the same utility.

I was initially hesitant with the mixed reviews, but I have had a great experience with these remotes. My scenario might be a little niche, but I'm sure some could relate. I've been doing retro gaming through my raspberry pi4. Initially I used the 8bitdo remotes. Don't get me wrong, those are fantastic remotes, however as finicky as the pi can be the system kept forgetting the 8bitdo remotes and I had to hop back into the Bluetooth menu to reconnect them, which is a huge hassle especially when you're trying to jump into retro game night with company. Finally I decided to cut corners and get remotes that hook up via USB dongle. After some light research I came across these. The mixed reviews left me hesitant, but as with most Amazon items you never really know until you experience it yourself. The packaging came intact and the remotes appeared to be in good condition. The hardware itself feels light, but the buttons are clicky and responsive. The stick feels tight and bounces back into the center no issues. An added bonus are the bumpers and triggers having their own rows as opposed to some models that line them up. My only nitpick are my big dumb adult fingers that crowd a little when trying to occupy all four buttons. But I know that's a common thing when you're going for this type of shape for a remote. The remotes arrived with some charge and I wasted no time plugging in the dongle and powering on the pi. After hitting the sync button on the dongle, the remote connected with zero issues. After configuring the inputs I hopped into several games. When testing remotes I like to hop into fighting games, and sure enough I felt no lag input which was something I had adjusted to with the 8bitdo remotes. The inputs were solid enough to land an ultra combo and so I spent the rest of the week putting in some gaming time. As for the battery life I can't say if the 6 or so hours are true. I've got a busy schedule that allows me an hour or 2 max of gaming per day, but they last those sessions no problem. I final note my pi is using the argon case. With 2 dongles and a third USB, its a little crowded but everything is reading perfectly. These remotes are absolutely fantastic and at this point I hope I can get a few years of use out them.

I'm into owning lots of different first-party and third-party controllers to play various PC games, from Xbox-like to Playstation-like to Switch-like and so on. My favorite style is the SNES "pill" and probably my favorite controller I own is the 8BitDo SN30. I thought this Retro-Bit product would be a good controller to throw into the mix with the others, but from the very beginning I've had issues with this controller. First of all, I noticed that the controller I received sent the wrong inputs on A-B and X-Y. Not just in the sense that Xbox controllers had to go and change the naming convention from the SNES standard... all gamepad testers I've tried tell me that when I'm pressing the bottom button—B on the Retro-Bit—according to the PC, I'm actually pressing the right button. I counted this as simply a weird feature of this type of controller, but it was like this out of the box and I've really started to think I got a defective product. This really isn't an issue because I can rebind the buttons. Unlike most wireless controllers, to my experience, this controller CANNOT be used wired. If you plug it into a PC, it doesn't work; it has to be wireless, through the USB dongle. This is unfortunate because very soon after I bought it, I noticed that the controller seems to "lag" from time to time, which I'm guessing has to do with the wireless connection. Inputs will be ignored for probably like 0.5 to 1 second, typically once a minute or so. I guess I probably should have given up on this product when that started happening. But I didn't! I resolved to use this controller for low-stakes games where a missed input wouldn't matter that much. Actually, in the hand, it feels light and perfect for a chill SNES turn-based RPG or something. I should mention, I really like how the controller feels! It does not have vibration so it is very light in the hand, but it doesn't feel cheap to me. I like the face buttons, R and L and the ZR and ZL trigger things feel good too. The D-pad is a little clicky, but I like it mostly. The sticks are much smaller than the sticks on most controllers, but they work okay. I didn't even need the sticks after I realized all the issues with this controller... the games that worked best with it are better with D-pad anyway. Well, guess what? After not too long, the D-pad started working poorly, sending down-left inputs when I press down on the D-pad. Even the slightest, slightest left-ish press of down on the D-pad is down-left. This is not replicated with down-right: you have to press diagonally, as you would normally expect, to send a down-right input. So... problems, problems, problems. I really wanted to, and tried to like this controller. I made concessions to only play certain games with this controller. It just won't let me like it. It feels and looks nice, and works poorly. I would not recommend this controller.

Ho comprato due di questi controller, la versione in nero e quella in bianco, per collegarli a una macchina linux con RetroArch. Funzionano molto bene. Il pairing va fatto solo una volta all'inizio, dopodiche' quando si vuole usare il pad basta premere "Start" per svegliarlo (non ha interruttore di on off) e collegarlo al ricevitore. Spesso bisogna premerlo due o tre volte per farlo collegare (come indicato anche sulle istruzioni), ma non e' mai un problema. Viene riconosciuto subito sia da windows che da linux. Inoltre non ci sono problemi ad avere due controller insieme, vanno usati due dongle separati (quindi servono due usb libere) ma per il resto non ci sono conflitti di sorta (per fortuna visto che non c'e' scritto niente a riguardo, nella documentazione!) Lato hardware, mi sembrano ben fatti, hanno il peso giusto e un ottimo feeling in mano, sia con la croce direzionale che con il joystick analogico. I pulsanti rispondono bene, bisogna vedere dopo qualche anno di uso prolungato se le membrane si rovinano, ma al momento, dopo un paio di settimane di uso sono ancora in ottimo stato (e ci mancherebbe).La batteria dura abbastanza ed in ogni caso si puo' giocare anche mentre e' in carica. L'unica pecca e' che non c'e' un indicatore di carica completa, il manuale dice di lasciarlo "qualche ora".. Il dongle per la snes non l'ho provato, non essendo interessato all'argomento, e avrei anzi preferito poter scegliere di non averlo, meglio se a fronte di un costo minore (visto che il prezzo del controller non e' proprio bassissimo). Anche perche' il dongle snes e' piu' complesso di quello usb, ha pure un sistema di aggiornamento firmware con la sua presa microusb. Certamente ha un costo non indifferente nell'economia della scatola. Quindi i difetti elencati sono minimi, nel gioco vero e proprio funziona alla grande e io e mio figlio ci facciamo grandi partitone con gli arcade dei miei tempi :)

Only played with it with the SNES so far, but the controller feels really good.

Bonjour, Acheter pour jouer jeux de course automobile sur Steam sur mon PC... fonctionne bien notamment via les 2 modes de manette (change le comportements des boutons)... par contre, je suis un peu décu par le fait de devoir utiliser le dongle USB propriétaire pas très esthétique (trop long)... mis à part cela RASet semble de bonne qualité Cdlt

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It works well with Raspberry Pi and MacBook with it's wireless usb emitter. I use it with RetroPie and works perfect. Also I can use it with MacBook to play Xbox cloud games.